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ShadowDrakken



Joined: 08 Feb 2005
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Location: Kansas City, KS

PostPosted: May 03 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: GuildFTPd v1.0 Reply with quote

As some of you know, GuildFTPd v1.0 Beta was supposed to be released yesterday.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what has happened to this plan. Nitro had plenty of time to get it ready, but he seems to have disappeared. His IM programs are still online, however he has not responded to IMs in over a week. This really isn't all that abnormal, it always takes several days to get ahold of him. However, this time he's gone and missed his promise to release a sample of the new GuildFTPd.

I tried very hard the last few days to get a responce from him, but here I am with nothing to tell everyone. I apologize for the broken promise, and wish there was more I could do, but Nitro is the soul developer of GuildFTPd, and as such, is the only one who has control over releases.

I try to understand that Nitro is often very busy, he has a full time job, runs an apartment complex, and owns a business, as well as having a social life, so I try not to get too upset over how long GuildFTPd v1.0 has been taking. However, this time he had plenty of time, and has repeatedly said how well the project had been coming along... so I feel rather cheated myself.

--Drakken


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GremlinX



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: May 15 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: so now what? Reply with quote

So with ShadowDrakken gone, is anyone going to post 1.0?

Jesper, have you heard anything from Nitro?

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Jesper
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PostPosted: May 15 2006 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He left me a short msg last week saying he was sick... perfect time to get some writing done, I would say...
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Nitro
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Joined: 07 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: May 25 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this was a shock to me. Like I said in my previous post... I have not given up on GuildFTPd... my life has just been so busy lately, that I have not had the time to continue my hobby of programming. I am however, getting back into it lately and it's coming along nicely. So just wait and see!

By the way, I hope Drakken re-joins the team, but I understand his decision as it has been very difficult to get a hold of me, what with me not having internet at my new house and all.
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eneville



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PostPosted: May 25 2006 05:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I get a look at the latest version? I'd very much like to see if there's anything I can offer for the 1.0 release.
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montauk



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PostPosted: May 27 2006 09:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear everything is ok with you! Cogratulations with your new house (and internet connection Twisted Evil )
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Nitro
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PostPosted: May 28 2006 09:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

montauk wrote:
Good to hear everything is ok with you! Cogratulations with your new house (and internet connection Twisted Evil )


Thanks man Very HappyVery Happy
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antioch



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PostPosted: Sep 10 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowDrakken wrote:
[GuildFTPd is] not an opensource project, nor will it ever be

given the promise shown by this great project and the seemingly perpetual delay in releasing v1.0, when will it be appropriate to begin discussing a reversal of this policy? Smile
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ShadowDrakken



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PostPosted: Sep 10 2006 07:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

antioch wrote:
given the promise shown by this great project and the seemingly perpetual delay in releasing v1.0, when will it be appropriate to begin discussing a reversal of this policy? Smile


unfortunately, it's just not possible... when Nitro took over the project from the original author, one of the stipulations in the agreement was that it had to remain a closed project

v1.0 is still morally under this stipulation, despite the new codebase
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antioch



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PostPosted: Sep 10 2006 08:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh, i see. so a change in project name or a release from this obligation from the original author would do the trick?
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ShadowDrakken



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PostPosted: Sep 11 2006 07:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Nitro would only accept a release from the original author, I don't think even changing the name would release the moral obligation
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eneville



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PostPosted: Sep 11 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowDrakken wrote:
I think Nitro would only accept a release from the original author, I don't think even changing the name would release the moral obligation


Is the project lacking developers?
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ShadowDrakken



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PostPosted: Sep 12 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, for the same reasons it's not open source
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antioch



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PostPosted: Sep 23 2006 02:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowDrakken wrote:
...I don't think even changing the name would release the moral obligation

then this must mean that given this, in additional with the new code base, what nitro really agreed to was not to work on ANY ftp software project while being the guildftpd developer.

so then what needs to happen is nitro's leaving the guildftpd project to start a new ftp software project. say, osGuildftpd? Wink

of course this is all just speculation until we know the stipulations nitro agreed to whence taking over the current project from its previous developer.

*cue a clarification from nitro*
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Diamond



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PostPosted: Sep 24 2006 08:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's the delay in releasing 1.0 this time? Didn't Nitro say that he was working on it again? Should we just give up hope of ever seeing this new version? Is there a possibility of at least getting the beta?
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